OUTDATED -------- problem ------- Since gstreamer uses a hierarchical pipeline layout individual elements can be inside N levels of containers (bins). Elements can also produce interesting information for the user app or for its parent. Consider the mp3parse element that could detect id3 tags in the stream. One way to let the app know about those tags is by emitting a signal. The problem with this signal is that the app has to perform a g_signal_connect on this element. This might not always be possible/feasable because the APP might not know about the mp3parse element (eg. an autoplugged pipeline or a compound object). The app could instrospect each element in the pipeline and look for known properties/signals to connect to, but that looks a bit ugly IMO. Signal proxying is also not very feasable because signals are tied to class instances. let's take the following use case: - the user autoplugs an mpeg1 pipeline - the autoplugged pipeline most likely contains an mpegdemuxer, an mp3 decoder, mpegdecoder etc. - the mpegdemuxer knows the (average) bitrate of the stream. - the mpegdecoder knows the framerate of the stream - the mp3 decoder has some neat stuff too (bitrate, layer etc..) how are we going to get all those properties to the app? each element could fire a signal with the data. It the app were able to connect to every signal in each element this would work somewhat. Requirements ------------ The application can listen to an abritrary bin in the pipeline to collect information about that bins children. The app can listen on the top level bin to collect all of the elements messages. The data sent out by the elements must not be limited to a fixed set of messages; it must be extensible. proposed solution ----------------- We propose another way of propagating these element messages to the application. An element can send a message to its parent using a gst_element_send_message (element, message). The message would be of type GstMessage and would be similar to a GstEvent type (maybe even the same). The message would contain GstProps, which can be anything (a string, an int, a range etc..). It would also contain the originator of the message. The parent would just simply accept the message (and do something with it) or the default handler would just forward the message to its parent etc.. The message would bubble up the pipeline. When an element doesn't have a parent, the message is converted to a GSignal. The signal ("message") would just forward the message to any listening apps. The app can then use the originator field of the message to find out where it came from, possibly using the elementfactories klass field to find out what type of plugin created this message. For an autoplugged mpeg1 pipeline the following messages could be signalled to the app: element klass element property value name stream/mpeg/demuxer: (mpegdemux) "bitrate", GST_PROPS_INT (1000000) stream/mpeg/demuxer: (mpegdemux) "type", GST_PROPS_STRING ("mpeg1") video/mpeg/decoder: (mpeg2dec) "type", GST_PROPS_STRING ("mpeg1") video/mpeg/decoder: (mpeg2dec) "frame_rate",GST_PROPS_INT (25) video/mpeg/decoder: (mpeg2dec) "size", GST_PROPS_LIST ( GST_PROPS_INT (320), GST_PROPS_INT (200) ) audio/mp3/decoder: (mad) "layer", GST_PROPS_INT (2) audio/mp3/decoder: (mad) "bitrate", GST_PROPS_INT (128000) audio/mp3/decoder: (mad) "channels", GST_PROPS_INT (2) other possibilities: video/render/X: (xvideosink) "frames_dropped", GST_PROPS_INT (4) video/render/X: (xvideosink) "frames_shown", GST_PROPS_INT (254) video/mpeg/decoder: (mpeg2dec) "frames_dropped", GST_PROPS_INT (2) video/avi/demuxer: (avidemux) "codec", GST_PROPS_FOURCC ("DIVX") or video/mpeg/decoder: (mpeg2dec) "state_changed", GST_PROPS_INT (GST_STATE_PAUSED) or even audio/render/oss: (osssink) "master_clock", GST_PROPS_OBJECT (osssink_clock) .... or even even: input/file/filesrc: (filesrc) "here_i_am", GST_PROPS_STRING ("alive and kicking") With standard naming conventions for the element klass type and the messages ids, the player can easily create an info dialog to show various properties of the stream. The benefits are that we don't need to define N-thousand methods on elements, the messages can be anything and we don't have to use the heavyweight GObject signals in the core library. what about? ----------- - Threads? do we queue events and let the top half collect the messages or do we send them to the app in the thread context? - do we need a similar system for core functionalities (clocks, states, ...) or do we define methods for those?