ogg and the granulepos ---------------------- an ogg streams contains pages with a serial number and a granule pos. The granulepos is a number that is codec specific and denotes the 'position' of the last packet in that page. ogg has therefore no notion about time, it only knows about bytes and granule positions. The granule position is just a number, it can contain gaps or can just be any random number. theora and the granulepos ------------------------- the granulepos in theora consists of the framenumber of the last keyframe shifted some amount of bits plus the number of p/b-frames. This means that given a framenumber or a timestamp one cannot generate the granulepos for that frame. eg frame 10 could have several valid granulepos values depending on if the last keyframe was on frame 5 or 0. Given a granulepos we can, however, create a unique correct timestamp and a framenumber. in a raw theroa stream we use the granulepos as the offset field. vorbis and granulepos --------------------- the granulepos in vorbis happens to be the same as the sample counter. conversion to and from granulepos is therefore easy. in a raw vorbis stream we use the granulepos as the offset field. What can ogg do? ---------------- An ogg demuxer can read pages and get the granuleposition from it. It can ask the decoder elements to convert a granulepos to time. An ogg demuxer can also get the granulepos of the first and the last page of a stream to get the start and end timestamp of that stream. It can also get the length in bytes of the stream (when the peer is seekable, that is). An ogg demuxer is therefore basically able to seek to any byte position and timestamp. When asked to seek to a given granulepos, the ogg demuxer should always convert the value to a timestamp using the peer decoder element conversion function. It can then binary search the file to eventually end up on the page with the given granule pos or a granulepos with the same timestamp. Seeking in ogg currently ------------------------ When seeking in an ogg, the decoders can choose to forward the seek event as a granulepos or a timestamp to the ogg demuxer. In the case of a granulepos, the ogg demuxer will seek back to the beginning of the stream and skip pages until it finds one with the requested timestamp. In the case of a timestamp, the ogg demuxer also seeks back to the beginning of the stream. For each page it reads, it asks the decoder element to convert the granulepos back to a timestamp. The ogg demuxer keeps on skipping pages until the page has a timestamp bigger or equal to the requested one. It is therefore important that the decoder elements in vorbis can convert a granulepos into a timestamp or never seek on timestamp on the oggdemuxer. The default format on the oggdemuxer source pads is currently defined as a the granulepos of the packets, it is also the value of the OFFSET field in the GstBuffer. Oggmux ------ The oggmuxer uses the offset fields to fill in the granulepos in the pages. TODO ---- - use the OFFSET field in the GstBuffer to store/read the granulepos as opposed to the OFFSET_END field. - Seeking should be implemented with a binary search.