diff --git a/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/Makefile.am b/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/Makefile.am
index 7efde99364..21f3fa79f0 100644
--- a/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/Makefile.am
+++ b/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/Makefile.am
@@ -1,9 +1,11 @@
 SUBDIRS =
 
-testprogs = object element
+testprogs = object element pad element_pad
 
 object_SOURCES = object.c mem.c
 element_SOURCES = element.c mem.c
+pad_SOURCES = pad.c mem.c
+element_pad_SOURCES = element_pad.c mem.c
 
 TESTS = $(testprogs)
 
diff --git a/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/element_pad.c b/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/element_pad.c
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..d40aa14b33
--- /dev/null
+++ b/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/element_pad.c
@@ -0,0 +1,70 @@
+#include <gst/gst.h>
+
+#define ITERS 100000
+#include "mem.h"
+
+static void
+print_pad_props (GstPad *pad)
+{
+  g_print ("name %s\n", gst_pad_get_name (pad));
+  g_print ("flags 0x%08x\n", GST_FLAGS (pad));
+}
+
+static GstElement*
+create_element (gchar *padname, GstPadDirection dir)
+{
+  GstElement *element;
+  GstPad *pad;
+
+  element = gst_element_new ();
+  pad = gst_pad_new (padname, dir);
+  gst_element_add_pad (element, pad);
+
+  return element;
+}
+
+int
+main (int argc, gchar *argv[])
+{
+  GstElement *element;
+  GstElement *element2;
+  GstPad *pad;
+  long usage1;
+  gint i;
+
+  gst_init (&argc, &argv);
+
+  g_print ("creating new element\n");
+  element = gst_element_new ();
+  usage1 = vmsize();
+
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("sink", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  gst_element_add_pad (element, pad);
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+
+  g_print ("unref new element %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (element));
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS; i++) {
+    element = create_element ("sink", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (element));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 element %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS/2; i++) {
+    element = create_element ("sink", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    element2 = create_element ("src", GST_PAD_SRC);
+    gst_element_connect (element, "sink", element2, "src");
+    g_assert (GST_PAD_CONNECTED (gst_element_get_pad (element2, "src")));
+    g_assert (GST_PAD_CONNECTED (gst_element_get_pad (element, "sink")));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (element));
+    g_assert (!GST_PAD_CONNECTED (gst_element_get_pad (element2, "src")));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (element2));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 element %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("leaked: %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  return 0;
+}
diff --git a/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/pad.c b/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/pad.c
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..8a313e5386
--- /dev/null
+++ b/tests/old/testsuite/refcounting/pad.c
@@ -0,0 +1,149 @@
+#include <gst/gst.h>
+
+#define ITERS 100000
+#include "mem.h"
+
+static void
+print_pad_props (GstPad *pad)
+{
+  g_print ("name %s\n", gst_pad_get_name (pad));
+  g_print ("flags 0x%08x\n", GST_FLAGS (pad));
+}
+
+int
+main (int argc, gchar *argv[])
+{
+  GstPad *pad;
+  GstPad *pad2;
+  GstPadTemplate *padtempl;
+  long usage1;
+  gint i;
+
+  gst_init (&argc, &argv);
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  usage1 = vmsize();
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  g_assert (GST_OBJECT_FLOATING (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("sink new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  gst_object_sink (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_assert (!GST_OBJECT_FLOATING (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  g_assert (!GST_OBJECT_DESTROYED (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("destroy new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_assert (GST_OBJECT_DESTROYED (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_pad_set_name (pad, "testing123");
+    gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_pad_set_name (pad, "testing123");
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    gst_pad_set_name (pad, "testing");
+  }
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("connecting pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  pad2 = gst_pad_new ("padname2", GST_PAD_SRC);
+
+  gst_pad_connect (pad, pad2);
+  gst_pad_disconnect (pad, pad2);
+  gst_pad_connect (pad2, pad);
+  gst_pad_disconnect (pad2, pad);
+
+  g_print ("padtemplates create/destroy %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    padtempl = gst_padtemplate_new ("sink%d", GST_PAD_SINK, GST_PAD_SOMETIMES, NULL);
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (padtempl));
+  }
+
+  g_print ("padtemplates create/destroy on pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    padtempl = gst_padtemplate_new ("sink%d", GST_PAD_SINK, GST_PAD_SOMETIMES, NULL);
+    pad = gst_pad_new_from_template (padtempl, "sink1");
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  
+  g_print ("leaked: %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  return 0;
+}
diff --git a/testsuite/refcounting/Makefile.am b/testsuite/refcounting/Makefile.am
index 7efde99364..21f3fa79f0 100644
--- a/testsuite/refcounting/Makefile.am
+++ b/testsuite/refcounting/Makefile.am
@@ -1,9 +1,11 @@
 SUBDIRS =
 
-testprogs = object element
+testprogs = object element pad element_pad
 
 object_SOURCES = object.c mem.c
 element_SOURCES = element.c mem.c
+pad_SOURCES = pad.c mem.c
+element_pad_SOURCES = element_pad.c mem.c
 
 TESTS = $(testprogs)
 
diff --git a/testsuite/refcounting/element_pad.c b/testsuite/refcounting/element_pad.c
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..d40aa14b33
--- /dev/null
+++ b/testsuite/refcounting/element_pad.c
@@ -0,0 +1,70 @@
+#include <gst/gst.h>
+
+#define ITERS 100000
+#include "mem.h"
+
+static void
+print_pad_props (GstPad *pad)
+{
+  g_print ("name %s\n", gst_pad_get_name (pad));
+  g_print ("flags 0x%08x\n", GST_FLAGS (pad));
+}
+
+static GstElement*
+create_element (gchar *padname, GstPadDirection dir)
+{
+  GstElement *element;
+  GstPad *pad;
+
+  element = gst_element_new ();
+  pad = gst_pad_new (padname, dir);
+  gst_element_add_pad (element, pad);
+
+  return element;
+}
+
+int
+main (int argc, gchar *argv[])
+{
+  GstElement *element;
+  GstElement *element2;
+  GstPad *pad;
+  long usage1;
+  gint i;
+
+  gst_init (&argc, &argv);
+
+  g_print ("creating new element\n");
+  element = gst_element_new ();
+  usage1 = vmsize();
+
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("sink", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  gst_element_add_pad (element, pad);
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+
+  g_print ("unref new element %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (element));
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS; i++) {
+    element = create_element ("sink", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (element));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 element %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS/2; i++) {
+    element = create_element ("sink", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    element2 = create_element ("src", GST_PAD_SRC);
+    gst_element_connect (element, "sink", element2, "src");
+    g_assert (GST_PAD_CONNECTED (gst_element_get_pad (element2, "src")));
+    g_assert (GST_PAD_CONNECTED (gst_element_get_pad (element, "sink")));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (element));
+    g_assert (!GST_PAD_CONNECTED (gst_element_get_pad (element2, "src")));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (element2));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 element %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("leaked: %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  return 0;
+}
diff --git a/testsuite/refcounting/pad.c b/testsuite/refcounting/pad.c
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..8a313e5386
--- /dev/null
+++ b/testsuite/refcounting/pad.c
@@ -0,0 +1,149 @@
+#include <gst/gst.h>
+
+#define ITERS 100000
+#include "mem.h"
+
+static void
+print_pad_props (GstPad *pad)
+{
+  g_print ("name %s\n", gst_pad_get_name (pad));
+  g_print ("flags 0x%08x\n", GST_FLAGS (pad));
+}
+
+int
+main (int argc, gchar *argv[])
+{
+  GstPad *pad;
+  GstPad *pad2;
+  GstPadTemplate *padtempl;
+  long usage1;
+  gint i;
+
+  gst_init (&argc, &argv);
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  usage1 = vmsize();
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  g_assert (GST_OBJECT_FLOATING (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("sink new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  gst_object_sink (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_assert (!GST_OBJECT_FLOATING (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  g_assert (!GST_OBJECT_DESTROYED (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("destroy new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_assert (GST_OBJECT_DESTROYED (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("creating new pad\n");
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  print_pad_props (pad);
+  gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_print ("unref new pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+    gst_object_ref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_pad_set_name (pad, "testing123");
+    gst_object_destroy (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_pad_set_name (pad, "testing123");
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    gst_pad_set_name (pad, "testing");
+  }
+  gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  g_print ("destroy/unref 100000 pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  g_print ("connecting pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  pad = gst_pad_new ("padname", GST_PAD_SINK);
+  pad2 = gst_pad_new ("padname2", GST_PAD_SRC);
+
+  gst_pad_connect (pad, pad2);
+  gst_pad_disconnect (pad, pad2);
+  gst_pad_connect (pad2, pad);
+  gst_pad_disconnect (pad2, pad);
+
+  g_print ("padtemplates create/destroy %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    padtempl = gst_padtemplate_new ("sink%d", GST_PAD_SINK, GST_PAD_SOMETIMES, NULL);
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (padtempl));
+  }
+
+  g_print ("padtemplates create/destroy on pad %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  for (i=0; i<ITERS;i++) {
+    padtempl = gst_padtemplate_new ("sink%d", GST_PAD_SINK, GST_PAD_SOMETIMES, NULL);
+    pad = gst_pad_new_from_template (padtempl, "sink1");
+    gst_object_unref (GST_OBJECT (pad));
+  }
+  
+  g_print ("leaked: %ld\n", vmsize()-usage1);
+
+  return 0;
+}