diff --git a/girs/GstVulkan-1.0.gir b/girs/GstVulkan-1.0.gir
index 0dc871f87f..35ffb545e0 100644
--- a/girs/GstVulkan-1.0.gir
+++ b/girs/GstVulkan-1.0.gir
@@ -7174,6 +7174,37 @@ retrieval is performed.</doc>
         </parameter>
       </parameters>
     </function>
+    <function name="vulkan_ensure_element_device" c:identifier="gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device" version="1.26">
+      <doc xml:space="preserve" filename="../subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c">Perform the steps necessary for retrieving a #GstVulkanDevice from
+the surrounding elements or create a new device according to the device_id.
+
+If the contents of @device_ptr is not %NULL, then no
+#GstContext query is necessary and no #GstVulkanDevice
+retrieval is performed.</doc>
+      <source-position filename="../subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.h"/>
+      <return-value transfer-ownership="none">
+        <doc xml:space="preserve" filename="../subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c">whether a #GstVulkanDevice exists in @device_ptr</doc>
+        <type name="gboolean" c:type="gboolean"/>
+      </return-value>
+      <parameters>
+        <parameter name="element" transfer-ownership="none">
+          <doc xml:space="preserve" filename="../subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c">a #GstElement</doc>
+          <type name="Gst.Element" c:type="GstElement*"/>
+        </parameter>
+        <parameter name="instance" transfer-ownership="none">
+          <doc xml:space="preserve" filename="../subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c">the #GstVulkanInstance</doc>
+          <type name="VulkanInstance" c:type="GstVulkanInstance*"/>
+        </parameter>
+        <parameter name="device_ptr" direction="inout" caller-allocates="0" transfer-ownership="full" optional="1">
+          <doc xml:space="preserve" filename="../subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c">the resulting #GstVulkanDevice</doc>
+          <type name="VulkanDevice" c:type="GstVulkanDevice**"/>
+        </parameter>
+        <parameter name="device_id" transfer-ownership="none">
+          <doc xml:space="preserve" filename="../subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c">The device number to use, 0 is default.</doc>
+          <type name="guint" c:type="guint"/>
+        </parameter>
+      </parameters>
+    </function>
     <function name="vulkan_error_quark" c:identifier="gst_vulkan_error_quark" moved-to="VulkanError.quark" version="1.18">
       <return-value transfer-ownership="none">
         <type name="GLib.Quark" c:type="GQuark"/>
diff --git a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkdownload.c b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkdownload.c
index 057fc85567..09e235d739 100644
--- a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkdownload.c
+++ b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkdownload.c
@@ -569,20 +569,9 @@ gst_vulkan_download_change_state (GstElement * element,
             ("Failed to retrieve vulkan instance"), (NULL));
         return GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE;
       }
-      if (!gst_vulkan_device_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (vk_download),
-              &vk_download->device)) {
-        GError *error = NULL;
-        GST_DEBUG_OBJECT (vk_download,
-            "No device retrieved from peer elements");
-        if (!(vk_download->device =
-                gst_vulkan_instance_create_device (vk_download->instance,
-                    &error))) {
-          GST_ELEMENT_ERROR (vk_download, RESOURCE, NOT_FOUND,
-              ("Failed to create vulkan device"), ("%s",
-                  error ? error->message : ""));
-          g_clear_error (&error);
-          return GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE;
-        }
+      if (!gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device (element, vk_download->instance,
+              &vk_download->device, 0)) {
+        return GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE;
       }
 
       if (gst_vulkan_queue_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (vk_download),
diff --git a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkh264dec.c b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkh264dec.c
index c2e0052cb2..f4145f861b 100644
--- a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkh264dec.c
+++ b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkh264dec.c
@@ -135,18 +135,9 @@ gst_vulkan_h264_decoder_open (GstVideoDecoder * decoder)
     return FALSE;
   }
 
-  if (!gst_vulkan_device_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (decoder),
-          &self->device)) {
-    GError *error = NULL;
-    GST_DEBUG_OBJECT (self, "No device retrieved from peer elements");
-    self->device = gst_vulkan_instance_create_device (self->instance, &error);
-    if (!self->device) {
-      GST_ELEMENT_ERROR (self, RESOURCE, NOT_FOUND,
-          ("Failed to create vulkan device"),
-          ("%s", error ? error->message : ""));
-      g_clear_error (&error);
-      return FALSE;
-    }
+  if (!gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device (GST_ELEMENT (decoder), self->instance,
+          &self->device, 0)) {
+    return FALSE;
   }
 
   if (!gst_vulkan_queue_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (self),
diff --git a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkh265dec.c b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkh265dec.c
index 90f37399fd..e572c06cf3 100644
--- a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkh265dec.c
+++ b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkh265dec.c
@@ -193,18 +193,9 @@ gst_vulkan_h265_decoder_open (GstVideoDecoder * decoder)
     return FALSE;
   }
 
-  if (!gst_vulkan_device_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (decoder),
-          &self->device)) {
-    GError *error = NULL;
-    GST_DEBUG_OBJECT (self, "No device retrieved from peer elements");
-    self->device = gst_vulkan_instance_create_device (self->instance, &error);
-    if (!self->device) {
-      GST_ELEMENT_ERROR (self, RESOURCE, NOT_FOUND,
-          ("Failed to create vulkan device"),
-          ("%s", error ? error->message : ""));
-      g_clear_error (&error);
-      return FALSE;
-    }
+  if (!gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device (GST_ELEMENT (decoder), self->instance,
+          &self->device, 0)) {
+    return FALSE;
   }
 
   if (!gst_vulkan_queue_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (self),
diff --git a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vksink.c b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vksink.c
index ec523a0d22..e5888821cf 100644
--- a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vksink.c
+++ b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vksink.c
@@ -288,20 +288,9 @@ gst_vulkan_sink_change_state (GstElement * element, GstStateChange transition)
             ("Failed to retrieve vulkan instance/display"), (NULL));
         return GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE;
       }
-
-      if (!vk_sink->device) {
-        if (!gst_vulkan_device_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (vk_sink),
-                &vk_sink->device)) {
-          if (!(vk_sink->device =
-                  gst_vulkan_instance_create_device (vk_sink->instance,
-                      &error))) {
-            GST_ELEMENT_ERROR (vk_sink, RESOURCE, NOT_FOUND,
-                ("Failed to create vulkan device"), ("%s",
-                    error ? error->message : ""));
-            g_clear_error (&error);
-            return GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE;
-          }
-        }
+      if (!gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device (element, vk_sink->instance,
+              &vk_sink->device, 0)) {
+        return GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE;
       }
       break;
     case GST_STATE_CHANGE_READY_TO_PAUSED:
diff --git a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkupload.c b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkupload.c
index b21832d9b4..1055230dd9 100644
--- a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkupload.c
+++ b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/ext/vulkan/vkupload.c
@@ -1151,19 +1151,9 @@ gst_vulkan_upload_change_state (GstElement * element, GstStateChange transition)
             ("Failed to retrieve vulkan instance"), (NULL));
         return GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE;
       }
-      if (!gst_vulkan_device_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (vk_upload),
-              &vk_upload->device)) {
-        GError *error = NULL;
-        GST_DEBUG_OBJECT (vk_upload, "No device retrieved from peer elements");
-        if (!(vk_upload->device =
-                gst_vulkan_instance_create_device (vk_upload->instance,
-                    &error))) {
-          GST_ELEMENT_ERROR (vk_upload, RESOURCE, NOT_FOUND,
-              ("Failed to create vulkan device"), ("%s",
-                  error ? error->message : ""));
-          g_clear_error (&error);
-          return GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE;
-        }
+      if (!gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device (element, vk_upload->instance,
+              &vk_upload->device, 0)) {
+        return GST_STATE_CHANGE_FAILURE;
       }
       // Issue with NVIDIA driver where the output gets artifacts if I select another
       // queue seen the codec one does not support VK_QUEUE_GRAPHICS_BIT but VK_QUEUE_TRANSFER_BIT.
diff --git a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c
index bc639ccab4..b7cacb2346 100644
--- a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c
+++ b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.c
@@ -309,6 +309,61 @@ gst_vulkan_ensure_element_data (GstElement * element,
   return *display_ptr != NULL && *instance_ptr != NULL;
 }
 
+/**
+ * gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device:
+ * @element: a #GstElement
+ * @instance: the #GstVulkanInstance
+ * @device_ptr: (inout) (optional): the resulting #GstVulkanDevice
+ * @device_id: The device number to use, 0 is default.
+ *
+ * Perform the steps necessary for retrieving a #GstVulkanDevice from
+ * the surrounding elements or create a new device according to the device_id.
+ *
+ * If the contents of @device_ptr is not %NULL, then no
+ * #GstContext query is necessary and no #GstVulkanDevice
+ * retrieval is performed.
+ *
+ * Returns: whether a #GstVulkanDevice exists in @device_ptr
+ *
+ * Since: 1.26
+ */
+gboolean
+gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device (GstElement * element,
+    GstVulkanInstance * instance, GstVulkanDevice ** device_ptr,
+    guint device_id)
+{
+  g_return_val_if_fail (instance != NULL, FALSE);
+
+  if (!gst_vulkan_device_run_context_query (element, device_ptr)) {
+    GError *error = NULL;
+    GST_CAT_INFO_OBJECT (GST_CAT_CONTEXT, element,
+        "No device retrieved from peer elements");
+
+    /* If no neighboor, or application not interested, use system default by device id */
+    *device_ptr =
+        gst_vulkan_instance_create_device_with_index (instance, device_id,
+        &error);
+
+    if (!*device_ptr) {
+      GST_ELEMENT_ERROR (element, RESOURCE, NOT_FOUND,
+          ("Failed to create vulkan device"),
+          ("%s", error ? error->message : ""));
+      g_clear_error (&error);
+      return FALSE;
+    }
+    GST_CAT_INFO_OBJECT (GST_CAT_CONTEXT, element,
+        "Created a new device from %s",
+        (*device_ptr)->physical_device->properties.deviceName);
+  } else {
+    if ((*device_ptr)->physical_device->device_index != device_id) {
+      GST_CAT_INFO_OBJECT (GST_CAT_CONTEXT, element,
+          "A device with a different id has been selected from a peer element");
+    }
+  }
+
+  return *device_ptr != NULL;
+}
+
 /**
  * gst_vulkan_handle_set_context:
  * @element: a #GstElement
diff --git a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.h b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.h
index ba1cc15a4c..2d3a0fa301 100644
--- a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.h
+++ b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkutils.h
@@ -30,6 +30,11 @@ gboolean                gst_vulkan_ensure_element_data          (GstElement * el
                                                                  GstVulkanDisplay ** display_ptr,
                                                                  GstVulkanInstance ** instance_ptr);
 GST_VULKAN_API
+gboolean                gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device        (GstElement * element,
+                                                                 GstVulkanInstance * instance,
+                                                                 GstVulkanDevice ** device_ptr,
+                                                                 guint device_id);
+GST_VULKAN_API
 gboolean                gst_vulkan_handle_set_context           (GstElement * element,
                                                                  GstContext * context,
                                                                  GstVulkanDisplay ** display,
diff --git a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkvideofilter.c b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkvideofilter.c
index 701ee187d2..54d446b1df 100644
--- a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkvideofilter.c
+++ b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/gst-libs/gst/vulkan/gstvkvideofilter.c
@@ -274,17 +274,10 @@ gst_vulkan_video_filter_start (GstBaseTransform * bt)
         ("Failed to retrieve vulkan instance"), (NULL));
     return FALSE;
   }
-  if (!gst_vulkan_device_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (render),
-          &render->device)) {
-    GError *error = NULL;
-    GST_DEBUG_OBJECT (render, "No device retrieved from peer elements");
-    if (!(render->device =
-            gst_vulkan_instance_create_device (render->instance, &error))) {
-      GST_ELEMENT_ERROR (render, RESOURCE, NOT_FOUND,
-          ("Failed to create vulkan device"), ("%s", error->message));
-      g_clear_error (&error);
-      return FALSE;
-    }
+
+  if (!gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device (GST_ELEMENT (bt), render->instance,
+          &render->device, 0)) {
+    return FALSE;
   }
 
   if (!gst_vulkan_queue_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (render),
diff --git a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/sys/applemedia/vtdec.c b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/sys/applemedia/vtdec.c
index ab4e177c94..8f98e7057e 100644
--- a/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/sys/applemedia/vtdec.c
+++ b/subprojects/gst-plugins-bad/sys/applemedia/vtdec.c
@@ -643,17 +643,9 @@ gst_vtdec_negotiate (GstVideoDecoder * decoder)
       gst_vulkan_ensure_element_data (GST_ELEMENT (vtdec), NULL,
           &vtdec->instance);
 
-      if (!gst_vulkan_device_run_context_query (GST_ELEMENT (vtdec),
-              &vtdec->device)) {
-        GError *error = NULL;
-        GST_DEBUG_OBJECT (vtdec, "No device retrieved from peer elements");
-        if (!(vtdec->device =
-                gst_vulkan_instance_create_device (vtdec->instance, &error))) {
-          GST_ELEMENT_ERROR (vtdec, RESOURCE, NOT_FOUND,
-              ("Failed to create vulkan device"), ("%s", error->message));
-          g_clear_error (&error);
-          return FALSE;
-        }
+      if (!gst_vulkan_ensure_element_device (GST_ELEMENT (vtdec),
+              vtdec->instance, &vtdec->device, 0)) {
+        return FALSE;
       }
 
       GST_INFO_OBJECT (vtdec, "pushing vulkan images, device %" GST_PTR_FORMAT