diff --git a/bookwyrm/models/base_model.py b/bookwyrm/models/base_model.py
index aa174a143..3a2d758b7 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/models/base_model.py
+++ b/bookwyrm/models/base_model.py
@@ -76,6 +76,10 @@ class BookWyrmModel(models.Model):
                 and self.mention_users.filter(id=viewer.id).first()
             ):
                 return True
+
+# TODO: if privacy is direct and the object is a group and viewer is a member of the group
+# then return True
+
         return False
 
 
diff --git a/bookwyrm/models/group.py b/bookwyrm/models/group.py
index c1aa2d707..6810779cc 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/models/group.py
+++ b/bookwyrm/models/group.py
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ class Group(BookWyrmModel):
     """A group of users"""
 
     name = fields.CharField(max_length=100)
-    manager = fields.ForeignKey(
+    user = fields.ForeignKey(
         "User", on_delete=models.PROTECT)
     description = fields.TextField(blank=True, null=True)
     privacy = fields.PrivacyField()
diff --git a/bookwyrm/models/list.py b/bookwyrm/models/list.py
index 75f34b9e8..7ea33a8b6 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/models/list.py
+++ b/bookwyrm/models/list.py
@@ -36,9 +36,10 @@ class List(OrderedCollectionMixin, BookWyrmModel):
     )
     group = models.ForeignKey(
         "Group",
-        on_delete=models.CASCADE,
+        on_delete=models.PROTECT,
         default=None,
-        blank=True
+        blank=True,
+        null=True,
     )
     books = models.ManyToManyField(
         "Edition",
diff --git a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/created_text.html b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/created_text.html
index e7409942a..5e6ce513d 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/created_text.html
+++ b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/created_text.html
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 {% load i18n %}
 {% spaceless %}
 
-{% blocktrans with username=group.manager.display_name path=group.manager.local_path %}Managed by <a href="{{ path }}">{{ username }}</a>{% endblocktrans %}
+{% blocktrans with username=group.user.display_name path=group.user.local_path %}Managed by <a href="{{ path }}">{{ username }}</a>{% endblocktrans %}
 
 {% endspaceless %}
diff --git a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/form.html b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/form.html
index f764db6f9..c47cbbc4d 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/form.html
+++ b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/form.html
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 <div class="columns">
 
     <div class="column is-two-thirds">
-        <input type="hidden" name="manager" value="{{ request.user.id }}" />
+        <input type="hidden" name="user" value="{{ request.user.id }}" />
         <input type="hidden" name="privacy" value="public" />
         <div class="field">
             <label class="label" for="id_name">{% trans "Group Name:" %}</label>
@@ -20,9 +20,9 @@
 <div class="columns is-mobile">
     <div class="column">
         <div class="field has-addons">
-            <!-- <div class="control">
+            <div class="control">
                 {% include 'snippets/privacy_select.html' with current=group.privacy %}
-            </div> -->
+            </div>
             <div class="control">
                 <button type="submit" class="button is-primary">{% trans "Save" %}</button>
             </div>
diff --git a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/layout.html b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/layout.html
index 03a957d0a..f558f169a 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/layout.html
+++ b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/layout.html
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@
         </p>
     </div>
     <div class="column is-narrow is-flex">
-        {% if request.user == group.manager %}
+        {% if request.user == group.user %}
             {% trans "Edit group" as button_text %}
             {% include 'snippets/toggle/open_button.html' with text=button_text icon_with_text="pencil" controls_text="edit_group" focus="edit_group_header" %}
         {% endif %}
diff --git a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/members.html b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/members.html
index 80dab21c9..df5f1602a 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/members.html
+++ b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/members.html
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@
           <span title="{{ member.display_name }}" class="is-block is-6 has-text-weight-bold">{{ member.display_name|truncatechars:10 }}</span>
           <span title="@{{ member|username }}" class="is-block pb-3">@{{ member|username|truncatechars:8 }}</span>
       </a>
-      {% if group.manager == member %}
+      {% if group.user == member %}
       <span class="icon icon-star-full" title="Manager">
         <span class="is-sr-only">Manager</span>
       </span>
diff --git a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/user_groups.html b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/user_groups.html
index 9c48a8429..5239a3657 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/templates/groups/user_groups.html
+++ b/bookwyrm/templates/groups/user_groups.html
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
         <div class="card is-stretchable">
             <header class="card-header">
                 <h4 class="card-header-title">
-                    <a href="{{ group.local_path }}">{{ group.name }}</a> <span class="subtitle">{% include 'snippets/privacy-icons.html' with item=group %}</span>
+                    <a href="/group/{{ group.id }}">{{ group.name }}</a> <span class="subtitle">{% include 'snippets/privacy-icons.html' with item=group %}</span>
                 </h4>
                 {% if request.user.is_authenticated and request.user|saved:list %}
                 <div class="card-header-icon">
diff --git a/bookwyrm/templates/snippets/add_to_group_button.html b/bookwyrm/templates/snippets/add_to_group_button.html
index f533af6ea..cc394684c 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/templates/snippets/add_to_group_button.html
+++ b/bookwyrm/templates/snippets/add_to_group_button.html
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 {% load i18n %}
-{% if request.user == user or not request.user == group.manager or not request.user.is_authenticated %}
+{% if request.user == user or not request.user == group.user or not request.user.is_authenticated %}
 <!-- TODO: blocking is irrelevant here, but ...is it? -->
 {% elif user in request.user.blocks.all %}
 {% include 'snippets/block_button.html' with blocks=True %}
diff --git a/bookwyrm/templates/user/groups.html b/bookwyrm/templates/user/groups.html
index 912d5ec3d..1a5940728 100644
--- a/bookwyrm/templates/user/groups.html
+++ b/bookwyrm/templates/user/groups.html
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
 
 {% block panel %}
 <section class="block">
-    <form name="create-group" method="post" action="{% url 'create-group' %}" class="box is-hidden" id="create_group">
+    <form name="create-group" method="post" action="{% url 'user-groups' request.user.username %}" class="box is-hidden" id="create_group">
         <header class="columns">
             <h3 class="title column">{% trans "Create group" %}</h3>
             <div class="column is-narrow">